Re: Tax Requirements Validation- Canada Go-Live Prep
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- Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>
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- Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com>
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- Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com>, Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com>, eclark@thekey.com, Troy Riha <troy.riha@thekey.com>
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@Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com> Would PST fall under the same category as QST or would we treat it different. Its the same provincial tax but not sure if it applies in this scenaio ? thanks, On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 2:49 PM Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com> wrote: > Wow, that's news to me on the PST / QST. > > Can you please confirm what the applicable rates are now for private pay > clients in each province so that I can prep the ops team. > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 2:46 PM Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com> wrote: > >> Hey Steve, >> >> Thank you for this update. So the setups we have look to be correct then. >> >> All sites are PST exempt besides Montreal (QST+GST) & >> Toronto/Waterloo/Oakville (HST) >> >> And yes , the ops team has a process set in place of waiving tax on >> clients that receive government funding. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 2:41 PM Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Confirming that PST should not be collected. In reviewing the list of >>> taxable services general home care services provided to seniors are not >>> taxable for PST purposes. Even if the home care services are medical in >>> nature, they would still not be taxable for PST services. >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth/team, can you provide some background related to tax treatment >>> when the home care services are government funded (i.e. either the >>> government pays TheKey for the supply of the services to the individual >>> seniors or the individual receives funding from the government for the >>> purpose of acquiring the services from TheKey) as generally speaking they >>> are exempted from GST/HST and QST purposes. >>> >>> Looks like there's a call scheduled later this week so we can discuss >>> then. Thanks. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Elizabeth, >>>> We can always adjust the tax rates appropriately once we get the the >>>> final decision so we can set up with GST 5 for now. Did we get >>>> confirmation regarding the footer itself yet? -Frank >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 6:48 AM Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Steve, >>>>> >>>>> For 4 sites we are charging the full sales tax in their given >>>>> province: Toronto, Waterloo, Oakville and Montreal. >>>>> >>>>> The remaining 3 sites, we are charging only 5% which appears to be the >>>>> GST. It looks like the PST is being waived. >>>>> >>>>> This is how it was set up under the agency settings for these sites by >>>>> the owner/operators. >>>>> >>>>> We just need to know for those remaining 3 sites, is it a policy that >>>>> we cannot charge PST due to because we are not providing healthcare >>>>> services? >>>>> >>>>> thank you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 8:46 AM <eclark@thekey.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2023 9:34 AM >>>>>> *To:* eclark@thekey.com >>>>>> *Cc:* Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>; Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com>; >>>>>> Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com>; Troy Riha <troy.riha@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Tax Requirements Validation- Canada Go-Live Prep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Elizabeth, based on the word doc below is what appears we're >>>>>> charging, which is longer than the list in your email? Can you clarify? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BC - GST 5% >>>>>> >>>>>> Winnipeg - GST 5% >>>>>> >>>>>> Ontario - GST 13% >>>>>> >>>>>> Alberta - GST 5% >>>>>> >>>>>> Quebec - GST 5%; QST 9.98% >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:25 AM <eclark@thekey.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Attached are screenshots of what is charged today (from agency >>>>>> settings), aligns with the below. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Elizabeth Clark >>>>>> >>>>>> *Director, CI & Transformation* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Long Term Care Insurance, Onboarding* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *TheKey* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 30, 2023 8:31 AM >>>>>> *To:* eclark@thekey.com >>>>>> *Cc:* Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>; Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com>; >>>>>> Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com>; Troy Riha <troy.riha@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Tax Requirements Validation- Canada Go-Live Prep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks; Tim/Ali, please confirm the below is a comprehensive list of >>>>>> taxes being charged to clients in all provinces when you have a moment next >>>>>> week and we can go from there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 5:31 AM <eclark@thekey.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Steve- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What we charge in each province in question is below however, we’re >>>>>> not 100% confident this is accurate. Both Tim & Ali are out until Monday so >>>>>> we will have to wait on them to reply with any more context required if >>>>>> this is not sufficient. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - *Steve*- Need legal confirmation of alternate agency settings >>>>>> below are appropriate from a client taxation perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Vancouver- Currently only charging GST 5% >>>>>> - Calgary- Currently only charging GST 5% >>>>>> - Winnipeg- Currently only charging GST 5% >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Elizabeth Clark >>>>>> >>>>>> *Director, CI & Transformation* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Long Term Care Insurance, Onboarding* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *TheKey* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2023 2:24 PM >>>>>> *To:* eclark@thekey.com >>>>>> *Cc:* Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>; Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com>; >>>>>> Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com>; Troy Riha <troy.riha@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Tax Requirements Validation- Canada Go-Live Prep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a summary of what taxes (HST/GST/PST/QST) are charged in >>>>>> each province where we operate? It will help simplify the review process >>>>>> for Canadian counsel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If/when taxes are charged, the invoices should include the applicable >>>>>> tax account info. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also note that due to the upcoming holiday there may be a delay in >>>>>> response from Canadian counsel but I'll see how fast we can get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 1:21 PM <eclark@thekey.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ali and Tim would like formal review and sign off, they’re our >>>>>> sounding board for all things finance today so I think seeking confirmation >>>>>> from CAD counsel makes sense here. These settings were configured at the >>>>>> time of acquisition so they could have been valid then, but arent now, etc. >>>>>> Thanks for checking. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Steve Koyanagi <skoyanagi@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2023 1:13 PM >>>>>> *To:* eclark@thekey.com >>>>>> *Cc:* Ali Malik <ali.malik@thekey.com>; Frank Liu <fliu@thekey.com>; >>>>>> Timothy Thomas <tt@thekey.com>; Troy Riha <troy.riha@thekey.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Tax Requirements Validation- Canada Go-Live Prep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Elizabeth, do we have a Canadian finance/accounting vendor that can >>>>>> answer the tax related items assigned to me below? If not, I can solicit >>>>>> advice from our Canadian counsel, but wanted to check if finance has >>>>>> another vendor we can ask first. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 1:09 PM <eclark@thekey.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Everyone- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your time today. Below are the notes and action items >>>>>> from our call today. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Notes:* >>>>>> >>>>>> *On Boarding: * >>>>>> >>>>>> CSM/CSL teams’ own determination if clients should be charged tax for >>>>>> all agencies below. If charging tax is required, the “charge tax” button >>>>>> will be checked on the client record in ClearCare. This triggers taxes from >>>>>> that point forward only. Should we need to back bill any client these >>>>>> taxes, CSM/CSL team owns emailing Billiing@TheKey.Com the request to >>>>>> adjust past billing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Action Items:* >>>>>> >>>>>> - *Frank *to deliver Requirement to Appwrap for Montreal- >>>>>> Required to display our Agency Permit on the footer of the invoice. This >>>>>> can be hard coded, does not need to change at a client level. Every invoice >>>>>> should have this permit number displayed. “Numero AP-2000870” >>>>>> - *Frank *to deliver Requirement to Appwrap for Montreal- >>>>>> Required to break out 2 tax types, GST 5% & QST 9.975%, individually under >>>>>> the sub-total of the invoice. Order of display and example shown below. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Remove “HST” verbiage. >>>>>> - This will require an update to the Montreal Invoice Template >>>>>> to have 2 tax types broken out/calculated separately. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Current State Invoice: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Future State Placement: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - *Ali *to send list of Montreal Clients we charge tax to today, >>>>>> so we can update the client record in NS before we send our 1st >>>>>> NS invoice. Frank & Elizabeth will determine w/Appwrap, the best way to >>>>>> make this one-time update. >>>>>> - *Frank *to deliver Requirement to Appwrap Oakville/Waterloo- >>>>>> HST 13% >>>>>> - *Steve*- Need legal confirmation of alternate agency settings >>>>>> below are appropriate from a client taxation per